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that's what i had to do to corral one big city mayor in an environment i completely controlled. so imagine jim lehrer that in debate hall. he can't cut anybody's microphone and he's dealing with the president of the united states and another guy who is gutsy enough to try and take the job. and he's supposed to control these guys and do that in an untested format designed to be loose and open-ended and sort of free flowing? shoot, i don't care what the critics say, jim lehrer did what any moderator would have done in that situation. the best he could. anita. >> thank you, derek. >>> rats, roaches, mice, you name it, we've got it in tonight's food alert. just wait until you see what our cameras found inside a restaurant that claimed hat cleaned up. from dupont circle to bethesda and into arlington, here's investigative reporter russ ptacek. >> reporter: instinctively we know roaches are wrong, right? food safety managers are required in restaurants because they're trained to watch out for other risks like food in the temperature danger zone, that's cold food above 41 degrees or he
that's what i had to do to corral one big city mayor in an environment i completely controlled. so imagine jim lehrer that in debate hall. he can't cut anybody's microphone and he's dealing with the president of the united states and another guy who is gutsy enough to try and take the job. and he's supposed to control these guys and do that in an untested format designed to be loose and open-ended and sort of free flowing? shoot, i don't care what the critics say, jim lehrer did what any...
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. >> we've created a better environment for these organisms. the organism enters the lungs. usually the patients present with symptoms of weakness, a persistent cough. they can have night sweats. their oxygen exchange in the lungs is not so good, so they're always weak. >> we've had 400 different patients with microbacteria. >> reporter: pulmonologist dr. david says most people are not acceptable to the bacteria, but for those who have a history of lung problems, for elderly patients and people with compromised immune systems, ntm can be life-threatening. >> you can see the crud that i picked up. >> reporter: and the proof is right in front of us as he takes off a showerhead. >> this has got lots of it. >> reporter: for katie, life has changed dramatically. no more showers and she only drinks bottled water. but at least she's finally feeling better. >> there's so many different ,,, >>> weather time. meteorologist pa deanno with the forecast. boy, do we see a big change, especially in downtown san francisco. we literally changed seasons in like two hours. look at the differen
. >> we've created a better environment for these organisms. the organism enters the lungs. usually the patients present with symptoms of weakness, a persistent cough. they can have night sweats. their oxygen exchange in the lungs is not so good, so they're always weak. >> we've had 400 different patients with microbacteria. >> reporter: pulmonologist dr. david says most people are not acceptable to the bacteria, but for those who have a history of lung problems, for elderly...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point. >> lehrer: let me -- let him answer the taxes thing for a moment. mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before. >> lehrer: about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely. >> lehrer: completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> lehrer: okay. >> we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working.
i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point. >> lehrer: let me -- let him answer the taxes thing for a moment. mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before. >> lehrer: about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely....
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you look at president obama's record, he has a record of not being able to work well in a partisan environment. we will have to work together to get things done and my vote will go to mitt romney because he has a record of being able to do something just like that. >> thank you so much. in addition to posting your comments and we already have a lot of them on the debate, more than 1200 comments have come in on tonight's first debate, we also now have it all up there, which is a simple "who won?" let's take a look at how things stand right now. my technology is not working. we will come back after this call. it is from abilene in illinois. >> i thought both candidates did a good job. i was a little more impressed with the president. because of that, i am getting off the fence and going with the president. i think the moderator could have exercised more control. he let romney cut in and takeover more than he should have. i found obama to be more believable and i feel that he has prevailed in spite of the legislature. the objective of the legislature to make him a one-term president. and if he wi
you look at president obama's record, he has a record of not being able to work well in a partisan environment. we will have to work together to get things done and my vote will go to mitt romney because he has a record of being able to do something just like that. >> thank you so much. in addition to posting your comments and we already have a lot of them on the debate, more than 1200 comments have come in on tonight's first debate, we also now have it all up there, which is a simple...
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the environment of these two candidates come together after really negative attacks, these two candidates not have much of a personal history. they have met less than five times in history. -- in person. this summer has been, as everyone knows, i am sure, a lot of at going after personal attributes. ronnie's well, his career at bain capital, and on the flip side, the obama campaign has been upset about romney not shushing supporters to question whether barack obama was born in the united states. recently, this debate over the attack in libya. romney came out and suggested that obama was sympathetic with those who attacked the embassy there. so there is all this bitterness. they're coming in with it. both men have been coached to not let that come through. mitt romney specifically, rob portman has been told to push his buttons and teach romney how not to be testy and attack obama tonight. he wants to come off as likable. >> when did you arrive in denver? how heavy spent the day today? what have you seen? >> i arrived monday. the first thing i did was go to a rally here in denver with mitt
the environment of these two candidates come together after really negative attacks, these two candidates not have much of a personal history. they have met less than five times in history. -- in person. this summer has been, as everyone knows, i am sure, a lot of at going after personal attributes. ronnie's well, his career at bain capital, and on the flip side, the obama campaign has been upset about romney not shushing supporters to question whether barack obama was born in the united...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> jim: let's let him answer the tacks thing for a moment. >> okay. >> well, we have had -- >> jim: about the idea in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> governor romney has ruled out revenue -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you will never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain -- spain spends 42% of their total commo government. >> jim: okay. >> we are spenning 42% of our economy on government. i don't wawant to go down the ph to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they are working. >> jim: but, mr. president, you are saying, in order to get the job done, it has to be balanced -- >> if we are serious, we have to take a
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did you think of hope for the environment, or food, clothing, shelter? we do. weyerhaeuser. growing ideas. >> mr. president, you are entitled to your own airplane and house, but not to your own facts. >> the first presidential debate, around 12 mitt romney. >> it is arithmetic. >> where was the president's fastball? >> i felt he should of been more aggressive. >> join the president on them stage, the beleaguered middle class. >> the middle class are getting crushed. >> that is what joe biden says. >> how they can justify raising taxes on the middle-class who have been buried the last four years. >> to joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we have got going, guys. >> it was the biggest brownson's encore. i read that in a column friday morning. on the cover 25th, 1415 on christmas day at parkton corps, king henry led his army to victory. charles the six was mentally incapacitated at the time of battle. that is as far as i want to take that one. agincourt? >> yes, you were there, as i recall. you covered it for the daily frog. it was quite a rout. when i wrote the colu
did you think of hope for the environment, or food, clothing, shelter? we do. weyerhaeuser. growing ideas. >> mr. president, you are entitled to your own airplane and house, but not to your own facts. >> the first presidential debate, around 12 mitt romney. >> it is arithmetic. >> where was the president's fastball? >> i felt he should of been more aggressive. >> join the president on them stage, the beleaguered middle class. >> the middle class are...
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do you think that the fact that the media environment that they were in, this overheated media environment really intensifies the impact of these big events? >> absolutely. look, there's no question about it. mitt romney had a stronger night. president obama didn't bring his a game. no good, terrible night for president obama, now everybody looks back and says wow, this was a debacle. he got creamed. it wasn't that bad but the media echo chamber exaggerates that. >> i want to play what congressman gingry said to me earlier. here is a quote. primary is always going to lean right. then you come back to the center for the general. here is a little bit of our conversation. >> my question is what you said is during the campaign, you lean to the right and then you come back to the center when you're actually in the general election. so to me, that is you say one thing for a certain audience, to get them to support you, and then you say something different, maybe completely contradictory to another audience, which some could define as lying. so is that what we're seeing? >> and some could refer t
do you think that the fact that the media environment that they were in, this overheated media environment really intensifies the impact of these big events? >> absolutely. look, there's no question about it. mitt romney had a stronger night. president obama didn't bring his a game. no good, terrible night for president obama, now everybody looks back and says wow, this was a debacle. he got creamed. it wasn't that bad but the media echo chamber exaggerates that. >> i want to play...
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. >> i think tomorrow it would be great to die in to -- to dive into the protection of our environments. we will not dive into it to the level we should, and romney will not talk about how he is such a green governor in massachusetts, which definitely is a foot lot. >> tomorrow with the domestic policy debate. >> i was going to international affairs, but it is domestic policy. they are not going to discuss how we can get african- americans more jobs. they will talk in general about jobs, since we need jobs more, we should have more attention on its. >> in a sad remembrance of the 400th murder in chicago over the last couple days, we will not talk about the tie between youth unemployment numbers and how it has impacted the dropout rates and the crimes we're seeing in these urban environments. >> i would like to see an honest conversation about collective bargaining. >> i like that one. , we talk about that new small business economy, but african- americans, our economy is not a mom and pop, it is a mom or pop. we need to make sure it is addressing the mom and or pops our communities. , h
. >> i think tomorrow it would be great to die in to -- to dive into the protection of our environments. we will not dive into it to the level we should, and romney will not talk about how he is such a green governor in massachusetts, which definitely is a foot lot. >> tomorrow with the domestic policy debate. >> i was going to international affairs, but it is domestic policy. they are not going to discuss how we can get african- americans more jobs. they will talk in general...
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. >> this is segment 3 on the economy, environment. the first answer goes to you, mr. president. there is the major difference in your view on social security? >> we have a somewhat similar position. social security is structurally sound.+ pt will have to be tweaked the way was by ronald reagan and tip o'neill, but it is structurally sound. i want to talk about the values behind social security and medicare. my grandmother helped raise me. my grandfather died awhile back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. she only had a high school education, started as a secretary and ended up being the vice president of a local bank. she ended up living alone, by choice. theeason she could be independent was because of sscial security and medicare. she had worked all her life, put in the money, and understood there was a basic area of helping the poor.%+ that is what i think of when i think of entitlement. the name itself imply some sense of dependency on theepart of the spokess there are millions of people out there who are counting on this. my approach is to say h
. >> this is segment 3 on the economy, environment. the first answer goes to you, mr. president. there is the major difference in your view on social security? >> we have a somewhat similar position. social security is structurally sound.+ pt will have to be tweaked the way was by ronald reagan and tip o'neill, but it is structurally sound. i want to talk about the values behind social security and medicare. my grandmother helped raise me. my grandfather died awhile back. my...
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they did their thing to protect the environment, we had another vision in california. we disagree, but we move forward. we did not wait for anybody. we made commitments to reduce greenhouse gases by 25% by year 2020 and 85% by year 2015. we came up with a portfolio of renewable -- a renewable portfolio of 30% by 2020. new common standards. all the things we did -- so much so that secretary-general bank ki-moon encouraged all the other countries to go in the same direction, national governments -- sub-national governments have power and organization. he wanted to encourage them to go in that direction. environmental issues -- that is one issue. there are so many other issues you can address on a sub- national level. that is one thing to do at the schwarzenegger institute, to teach that and make people aware of the power of states and cities and counties. >> i think this has been a wonderful inaugural program. i want to thank the panel very much. thank you all so much for coming in. [applause] those of you who are registered for lunch, we look forward to seeing you there
they did their thing to protect the environment, we had another vision in california. we disagree, but we move forward. we did not wait for anybody. we made commitments to reduce greenhouse gases by 25% by year 2020 and 85% by year 2015. we came up with a portfolio of renewable -- a renewable portfolio of 30% by 2020. new common standards. all the things we did -- so much so that secretary-general bank ki-moon encouraged all the other countries to go in the same direction, national governments...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. >> romney slammed the president for the collapse of sill cylinderra and among things. 46% of america he considered himself -- themselves victims. even president supporters frustrated he didn't go on the owe -- offensive. >> we have crews with both of them. we start with paul chambers, who was with republican viewers. >> watched part of the debate in the cop tra costa county campaign headquarters. people there was very happy. the group watched the first head-to-head debate between president barack obama and his republican challenger mitt romney. the two battled on domestic issues. many say this is the more important of the three debates, because it gives people it gives him to ship. >> i thought he was very strong. we're all nervous about it. we think it's very important. i think he did well. >> romney had great opening. warm, personal, gave the five point plan. i thought it was good. i thought he had a great sound bite. >> terrific. >> the contra costa republican headquarters will hold three more watch parties. and the two remaining for the
i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. >> romney slammed the president for the collapse of sill cylinderra and among things. 46% of america he considered himself -- themselves victims. even president supporters frustrated he didn't go on the owe -- offensive. >> we have crews with both of them. we start with paul chambers, who was with republican viewers. >> watched part of the debate in the cop tra costa county campaign headquarters. people there was very happy. the...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. i want to make one more point. >> let mihim answer the tax thi for a moment. >> we've had this discussion before. >> about the judged nidea in or reduce the deficit there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> mr. romney has rule out revenue. >> look, the revenue i get is more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you will never get there, you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. we're now spending 42% on our economy to government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. i want to put more americans to work. >> mr. president, in order to get the job done, it is going to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we have to take a balanced, responsible approach. by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes, let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i have identified areas where we can
i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. i want to make one more point. >> let mihim answer the tax thi for a moment. >> we've had this discussion before. >> about the judged nidea in or reduce the deficit there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> mr. romney has rule out revenue. >> look, the revenue i get is more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. the idea of taxing people more,...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> let's let him answer the taxes thing. >> romney: okay. >> mr. president in order to reduce the deficit there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> obama: there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. governor romney has ruled out revenue -- [overlapping speakers] >> romney: the revenue i get is by getting more people working paying more taxes. but the idea of taxing people more putting more people out of work, you will never get there. you will never balance the budget by raising tacks. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they are working. >> mr. president you are saying in order to get the job done it has got to be balanced. >> obama: we have to take an balanced responsible approach. and this is not just individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. i have identified areas w
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hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective about which of his positions hold 'em size which he would conveniently forget and which he would, frankly, reverse in mid debate. but if you can do that, if you can get away with it, i understand why he did it. he was allowed to. >> he just said -- how does this appeal to the right wing 37 this is health care. the president says, if nothing else happens to this president we know for health care this is what he did. here's what the chamger said tonight -- if i'm elected we won't have to rephrase obama care. we'll have the kind of principals i put in place in my own state. what does that mean? >> it means from his
hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective...
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on the stage, including the monitor and once that began, i don't know whether he could change that environment what i was frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his people later on said he wasn't and he said, in fact, before that he never was really for covering preexisting conditions unless, you know, it is paid for, ahead of time during, you know, continuing coverage, and a couple of times in the last week he said things like well if you get sick we won't let you die in your apartment and get you to er and yet came on last night talking about a national health plan he had which he really doesn't have. i thought he got away with a lot of things showing sympathy f
on the stage, including the monitor and once that began, i don't know whether he could change that environment what i was frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really...
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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> jim: let's let him answer the tacks thing for a moment. >> okay. >> well, we have had -- >> jim: about the idea in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> governor romney has ruled out revenue -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you will never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain -- spain spends 42% of their total commo government. >> jim: okay. >> we are spenning 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they are working. >> jim: but, mr. president, you are saying, in order to get the job done, it has to be balanced -- >> if we are serious, we have to take a
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president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind me about what the president is going to say tonight and what mitt romney is going to say tonight. i think the rules actually favor president obama because there are almost no rules. they are going to do two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax
president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind...
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anything about women's issues civil rights anything along those lines just cursory talking about the environment. and anything with digital privacy you know anything along those lines about what the internet can and cannot do and who can regulate it that wasn't important and you didn't even you know of course you didn't have joel stein or gary johnson there so none of that could tug in that direction yeah absolutely it really did seem like these two sitting up there going taxes deficit wise taxes deficit. exchange exchange exchange but let's talk about the third party candidates i mean when they're excluded from these debates i mean we have this commission that funds the presidential you know that they're funded and part by the coal industry i mean how does that influence its head again as allegory for how the corporate media in this country works i mean theoretically a long time ago was the league of women voters you know the quintessential old and good old days right old line and obviously we're going to do is like people's moms . now it's the it's just a commission on presidential debates tha
anything about women's issues civil rights anything along those lines just cursory talking about the environment. and anything with digital privacy you know anything along those lines about what the internet can and cannot do and who can regulate it that wasn't important and you didn't even you know of course you didn't have joel stein or gary johnson there so none of that could tug in that direction yeah absolutely it really did seem like these two sitting up there going taxes deficit wise...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. 8:00 out west and you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. just about half an hour ago, president obama and republican challenger mitt romney wrapped up a 90-minute debate that covered not at all a wide range of topics. limited to domestic politics. we knew tonight but basically these guys talked about sunday morning beltway show favorites like "similarson bowls" and medicare and social security but left out a lot of other big domestic issues that have been major political issues including immigration, women's rights, specific
technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m....
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. >> i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. one more point*. >> we had this discussion before the. >> in order to reduce the deficit there have to be revenue in addition to cut. >> mitt romney has ruled out revenue. >> absolutely. neil: okay. i think the gist of that was how to get the deficit under control in have to have a mix of spending cuts and tax increases. and what about the president in a mitt romney to some ratio? and that it would not cut it for him. i don't think he scored. i think romney clearly one. he does need to provide more specifics, but i think he was in command. he made a couple of statements that need to be clarified. and he does not want more revenue but he wasn't true growth not taxes. what do you define as more revenue? as compared to current gdp your under current law? we are under much higher levels than before. to thing surprised me. obama's said social security doesn't have a problem. it needs tweeting. it is underfunded $8 trillion and he also said his idea was not that different than governor romn
. >> i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. one more point*. >> we had this discussion before the. >> in order to reduce the deficit there have to be revenue in addition to cut. >> mitt romney has ruled out revenue. >> absolutely. neil: okay. i think the gist of that was how to get the deficit under control in have to have a mix of spending cuts and tax increases. and what about the president in a mitt romney to some ratio? and that it would not cut it for...
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and there's a lot of target-rich environment in the holes that have been offered by the ryan plan. so i think the first thing is, let's get a great vice presidential debate and reset the stage for the president to come out and get after it again. >> ed, thank you so much. we love when we can get you in here early in the morning. >> i like it. it's good to be here. i know a lot of liberals in this country are frustrated right now. this is a bump in the road. it's not a redirect. >> ed schultz, catch him weeknights here on msnbc at 8:00 p.m. he plays for politics. thank you. >>> i just want to point out we are paying attention to what's going on in denver right now with a president obama rally scheduled for 12:05. coming up in roughly an hour. 12:05 eastern time. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> we want to bring in our debate post-game power, joy reed, we have anita dunn, former white house communications director, and john baybender who served on rick santorum's presidential campaign. gang, good to have you here. julian, you were saying yesterday don't try too hard for that moment and
and there's a lot of target-rich environment in the holes that have been offered by the ryan plan. so i think the first thing is, let's get a great vice presidential debate and reset the stage for the president to come out and get after it again. >> ed, thank you so much. we love when we can get you in here early in the morning. >> i like it. it's good to be here. i know a lot of liberals in this country are frustrated right now. this is a bump in the road. it's not a redirect....